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NEW-S'1'ATE TKllUi N K, THtiKSUAl, (K'TOHEK 20, 1U10.
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INDIAN TERRITORY CITIZENSHIP.
Whether you be red or white descent you had strolled to build your
homes, your schools, your churches, to educate your children, to elevate (lie
standard of citizenship, and were usklng only just re< ogiiltlon.
Joe W. McNeal lived at Guthrie, Oklahomu in those days when both T«-r
ritories were seeking the blessed privilege of home government. A man oi
limited information in tho heat of debate might have been excused for an
isolated uncomplimentary expression, but as to Joe McNeal it was not the re
suit of Ill-considered or hasty thought. For three years he contended both at
home and before Congress in Washington to discredit and debase the Indian
Territory, deny Its people their Just rights, and all for the same narrow selfish
partisan ambition that induced him one year ago to make tho most strenuout
effort of which a human being might put forth to even destroy the credit ol
his own state in order to destroy the efficiency of our state banking lav
Wo shall not ask our readers to believe our unsupported statement when
we know full well that no matter how truthful It might be Joo McNeal would
deny anything short of positive proof, therefore w- give you the record In
the llrst instance.
Read these photographs, citizens of Indian Territory, and decide for your
self, is a man of such vicious and untruthful record tit to be trusted with >o n
welfare since he failed to deprive you of your right in the beginning to par
ticlpate in the drafting or your state Constitution and the organization of your
state government?
Remember, Joe McNeal was not speaking for the citizens of Oklahoma
Territory. Thank Cod that out of seven hundred thousand i eople of Okla
homa Territory there wero less than a half dozen, Including Joe McNeal, whe
would have deprived tho people of Indian Territory of a single right.
joe's record.
THE PEOPLE DO NOT FORGET
The following is an extract irom a speech^
^delivered by Hon. Joseph W. McNeal, from
a band stand erected upon the Court House
square in the city of Lawton, when he and
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Hon Dick T. Morgan were making that mem
orable fight against statehood
The Indian Territory is not prepared for
statehood.
"In fact, its principal inhabitants are out-
laws and Indians.
"It is a Lawless, Churchless, Schoolless
Bndgeless, Poadless, Barren Indian Nation
'There are but Two Roads in that Tern
,ory, one of which leads to ignorance and
the other to crime "
The following persona were present a*t
beard this statement
Hon. Geo. D Key, Lawton, Okla
E. E. Jayne, Wewoka, Okla.
Hon. W H. Hussey, Lawton, Okla
C C. Hammonds, Lawton. Okla
Hon. S. M. Cunningham. Lawton. Okla
Hon. John Vertrees, Lawton. Okla.
T 8. Cobb, Wewoka, Okla.
J. D. P. Jennings. Oklahoma City, Okla.
Hon. Scott Ferris, Lawton. Okla.
Hon. J Elmer Thomas, Lawton, Okla.
The above from a public address at Lawton. Oklahoma.
We inow give you photographs taken from tho report of tho Committee
oa e torif s in Congress which includes the statement made to that Com-
mittee in a speech by Joe w. McNeal at the time of tho admission of Okla
and 10(11:1,1 Territories to statehood were under consideration Pago
two hundred eight we photograph McNeal's statement verbatim.
Inorn than fifty yturn the people of thai counti r nvc bad . form ot
jjovernracnt—they have had u form of jurisprmkr. . t v ir . ,
pretended to conduct a government. True, it v t ti J;rovern-
mcnt, hut it acquired com-ide ruble force and rmancne,, and for lifty
years they have never developed enough • > establish a common - h
system. They have never developed sufficiently t« • ' li a
of public highways. They ncv. r have done any f th- thin-.'* th
Iimkc people great and prosperous. It is naturally a very r i .
loiint ry
Mr McN'kil. it -rciih tome tbr re should be no difficulty in that.
Tti<' simple way would be to settle it iill t onee. If it id the wisdom
•fCoiiKre.su that the future Stiile of Oklahoma should include what is
now known as the Five Civilized Trilie . on that point I wish to reit-
the statement that our people feel that they arc willing to trust
Congress, lint that they ought not to lie handicapped by having to wait
until such time as the people of the Kive Civilized Tribes are ready for
ernineiit They f« *I that they have developed the rouptrv, the
jrhool system, and society they have developed everything that goes
lu make :t State happv and prosperous, while the people of the tribes
Atvc not done so
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STATEHOOD KO* OKLAHOMA
From i age two hundred fourteen and fifteen we photograph the entire
page, as follows:
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statehood for oklahoma.
would only show something like only 80,000 Indians in tho FIveTriln^
vhilc ihe grand total of the population is about 400,000.
Mr Kmd. That was what I was thinking.
Mr Mc(it iuk. The total population is 892,000.
Mr. McNeil. These people, however,are holding under sonic form
of a contract with the Indians.
Mr. RrtD. riiat is so in regard to those on the farms, but in the
towns and cities tlicy are engaged in something else.
Mr. McNi il. In little towns they are still holding under aome form
of contract with the Indians.
Mr Rei&. Those are very small that have not been surveyed.
Mr. Mi.\i:il I Ho not supposeinorc than twuuty towns in the Indian
lenitoru have hern finally proven up.
Mi Rohinsok. Oh, more than that.
Mr McCuire. There are a grant many smaller places which I
understand have not been recognized.
Mr Ri;id. I was thinking they had nbout all been proven up.
Mr Ciikstkh How i Three hundred and eighty have i>een proven up
Mi McNkii.. Yes; but until that happens they hold by virtue « l
some lease from some Indians. The Indian originally held his allol
nicut and made a contract t > sell his plot of ground -he oil led it a
l<'l and the fellow went in there and built a hou«o, and when he
nukes lhe proof that he did this the title issues from the United States
to him for this lot.
Mi Lloyd. 1 suppose. Mr. McNeil, in that connection you might
answer t he question and perhaps it is the ijucstion in w hich this com
mittee is most conrerned are your people in favor of single or double
stnteho* d ■
Mi McNkii.. Our people ure in favor of statehood.
Mr Kobinson. \\ hat do you mean by "our peopled"
Mi Mi Ni ii.. I lie people of Oklahoma. Ninety per cent of them
are in favor of statehood, and they do not want to he hound by an\
handicap, or cross any bridges until they get to them Whether m
not e\ entail \, in the wisdom of Congress, the Five Tribes should be
made a part ol* it. they do not care; but they do want statehood, and
they do object to being handicapped with those people from that conn
ti \ which Ii is not been shown to be randy for statehood. They object
to tlmt country being put on the same basis with us.- We are in favor
ot statehood, leaving the question of what the ultimate boundaries
vill he to the wisdom of Congress.
Mr. Llov i >. I hat ijuest ion is right up to us now, and we are expected
to decide it in the next few day.-. whether it shall be a single or a
double Stale, and I want your view about it.
Mr. Mc(ii ihk. Pardon me a question. Mr. Lloyd. What, in your
judgment. Mr. McNeil, is the sentiment of your people as to the
immediate admission of the Indian Tei ritory
Mr. McNkii.. They would Ik* opposed to any provision that would
put the Indian Ierritory upon a par with Oklahoma. Unquestion-
a hy they hope ultimatelv to take in Indian Territory, if it is the wis
ill °V t,,Hl tl,,s is the best thing for Oklahoma.
Mr. Llvod. In other word*, thev would be in favor of the piecq-
mr.il theory f *
Mr. M( Neil. Yes, sir.
appropriations for carrying on
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statehood kok oklahoma.
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Mr. Lloyd. Vou are the tirst man who ha- appeared before the
committee who is in favor of that.
Mr. McGuirk. What percentage of the people do you feel, Mr. M'
Neil, from your knowledge of the present conditions—the chaotic con-
ditions in the Indian Territory—what percentage of the people favor
the immediate union of the t wo Territories?
Mr. McNkii., 1 do not believe it would exceed 10 or 15 per cent in
favor of union at this time. I want to say thai the only people who
take that position are those who are interested selfishly in what they
lielieve lo be a promising capital locution.
Vou lake the -entiineiit of the |>eople of Oklahoma outside of Ihe
localities wheru it i- molded anil framed upon the sentiment of the
people of Oklahoma City and Shawnee—where it i- based largely upon
their ambition to become thecnpilal of the future ,^tate- and you will
find Ot) per cent of tli in are one way, and they want statehood for
Oklahoma. They feel that an outrage would be perpetrated upon
tliem to allow the Indian Territory to come in upon an equal repre
scnt.it Nn w illt them. Vou go abend and provide for the courts and
providi lor tlm election of Delegates. They have no -regular organi-
zation like we have in Oklahoma, by which the governor and others
ti\ the Uisis of respresrtitation. It is entirely arbitrary. And they
come in there, a motley mass, and have no thought at all along
those lines with us. and yet they are on a par with us; and they have
nol the population that we have.
Mr. Kkid. What is the difference in the population !
Mr. McNeil. At least 150.000.
Mr Mi Ol ihk. 1 think Oklahoma has at least 250,000 more than
the Indian Territory.
Mr Kkid. 1 thought, from the hearings we had here before, that
the\ were practically about the same.
i Mr. MeGi irk. 1 hoard those remarks myself, and 1 will refer to
that point in my remarks when I address the committee. i
t Mr. McNkii. When the 11MI0 census was taken there was only a
difference of about ti.OOO, 1 believe. Since then the Kiowa and Co-
manche countn has been opened; and since then there has been a
great immigration to other parts of Oklahoma; and it is safe to say
there is not far from 150,000 people more in Oklahoma than there are
in the Indian Territory. We have about 8.000 square miles more than
thev have, and why 'they should have an equal representation in the
op.Hhization of the Territory with us is beyond my knowledge and
coniprehen ion of equity. , .....
Mr. RomNof Vou say that a pecentage of 90 in Oklahoma is in
favor of what y ou thought the piecemeal policy. That is, the wish of
th® majority of these people is to create a State out of Oklahoma,
form u'constitutional convention, elect the delegates, fix all the places
for publii buildings and the capital, and mold the constitution and
then allow the other people to come in without Any voice at all about
those things(
Mr. McNkii.. I hey can come in or stay out, just as they please.
Mr. Lloyd. 1 think 1 understand you now. Perhaps i did not a
moment ago. Vour idea is that you want statehood for Oklahoma,
and that is all you are concerned about? •
Mi I.Mivi). What do voii Ihink ought to be done with Indian Ter-
ritoi v '
Mr McNkii I think >ho ought to remain just as she is now until
at least three tjiiurtere of tin- hunts there are subject to taxation. Then
I think each trilie should !>«■ allowed the right to vote whether they
wanted to Income a part of Oklahoma or not. If these |>co|>le want ii
sc|Kimtc State, let them have it If they want to he put over with us
we would liko to have them. Whenever they are tit subjects to conn-
in with Oklahoma we shall welcome them.
Nlr. Lloyi>. Ami you arc willing to put u provision ui. «ucfa as
the McGuire hill provides, that in the future if tha lodiao T^rntorv
wantj to be a part of Oklahoma Oongresa may aid ft without aaking
your consent ?
Mr. McNeil. We can take care of them.
Mr. IjI,oyi>. Hut until then you want statehood alone*
Mr. MrNF.ii.. That is what we want, and what we are eohi>ied to.
Mr. Roiiin*4 n. Vou do not mean to assume that any American com-
munity, would eonseut to come in with you to a constitution in which
tliey had no voire *
Mr. McNkii.. i do nol assume that at all. Oklahoma Territory was
opened with about 2,ooo,iHH acres of land, and then, by piecemeal,
additions were made to it. When she. had 400,000 people, the Kiowa
and Comanche country was added, making 100,000 people more.
Suppose no effort had Ijcoii made lo open Oklahoma until this entire
area was opened to settlement, what kind of confusion would we have
had there?
An uquitable provision would he to let any of those tribes vote on
whether they desired to be annexed to Oklahoma or not, and if the
majority voted to be annexed, let thum be annexed.
I hurt- is 21 great difference in the status of the real estate in the dif-
ferent tribes. I he ('reeks can now alienate one-fourth of their land.and
it will not b? long until they « ^n alienate three fourths. They can be
annexed w ithout any jar whatever. They could be juat assimilated.
Hut until they get three ipiartersof their land subject to Luxation they
should not In-put. lo the ex jmmiso of county government. Thetiovern-
rnent of the [ niled States should protect lifo and property until that
time.
Mr. Li.ovo. How long will that hef
Mr. M'iMiii. In about three years in the Creek country. Theother
liinds aic not >0 fnr alomj I In* country would tie developed. Thev
u on Id « 01110 in under a well organized and well-regulated government:
and iiM*:k| of having a Chinese wall to be built up, if you intend to
make tin- luilmii Ierritory without any taxation on a par with Okla-
homa with all ol her taxable pro|>ertv, aud make Oklahoma support
the public Is and everything of that kind, so far as the location
ol pulilie insi ituinuis are concerned there probably ncverwasa greater
nii-i 1 Ike in a 11x State or Ierritory than the scattering of public institu-
tion- it means highway robbery to the taxpayers, ana it results in
injurious and unfair and
public institutions.
No better rule could he established than to all public institu-
tions looted in one place. In that way the t«*payer would have some
show | hey ought to be free to support tli institutions properly.
>;i prnba ' n that condition can not obtain. There is no reason that
I eau imagine why the question of the location of public institutions
•should ha\e any bearing on tin-question.of the admission of Okla
4i4>nia or Indian Ierritory as a State.
For Governor
LKE CRUCK
Lieutenant Governor
J. J. McALESTBE
Secretary of State
BEN. F. HARRISON
Treasurer
ROBERT DUNLOP
Auditor
LEO MEYER
Superintendent
R. H. WILSON
Attorney General
CHARLES WEST
Commissioner of Charities
KATE BARNARD
Commissioner of Labor
CHARLES L. DOUGHERTY
Corporation Commissioner
GEORGE A. HENSHAW
Pres. Board of Agriculture
G. T. BRYAN
State Printer
GILES FARRIS
Examiner and Inspector
C. A. TAYLOR
Insurance Commissioner
P. A. BALLARD
Clerk Supreme Court
W. H. L. CAMPBELL
Associate Justire Supremo Court
JESSE DUNN
Justice Supreme Court
M. J. KANE
Chief Mine Inspector I
ED. BOYLE
District Mine Inspector
First District
JOHN O'BRIEN
Second. District
MARTIN CLARK
Third District
FRANK HALEY
Judge t rim. Court of App.
THOS. H. DOYLE
Eastern District
J AS. R. ARMSTRONG
Southern District
HENRY M. FURMAN
Congressmen
First District
n. e. mcneill
Second District
ELMER L. FULTON
Third District
JAS. S. DAVENPORT
Fourth District
CHAS. D. CARTER
I'ifth District
SCOTT FERRIS
ROBERT L. TAYLOR's SPEECH.
That was a great speech made by
Senator Robert L. Taylor in accepting
the Democratic nomination for gover-
nor or Tennessee for the fourth time.
Among other things, he said:
"Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen: I
believe in temperance and good gov-
j eminent. I believe in the endorsement
of the law and the preservation of
the peace and happiness of the people.
1 believe in maintaining individual
i rights and the right of every state to
I control its own domestic affairs un-
! molested by the federal government or
j by any other power under tho sun.
j I am for tariff taxation for revenue
j only, and I believe that every dollar
; < ollected from the people except for
purposes of government economically
administered is the worst form of rob
j bery. I believe that our government
j rests upon the fundamental principle
of equal and exact justice to all with
special privileges to none.
"Forty years ago I embarked on
the old ship of Democracy and vol-
unteered for life. I have clung to
her In many a storm and have sailed
with her into many a harbor of vic-
tory. I would rather go down in
defeat with her today and share her
wreck and ruin than to ride upon the
waves in triumph with her enemies,
j Through all the years Republicanism
has been weaving its web across the
I pathway of free government until it
! now hangs half visible, half vanishing
between centralized power on the one
I iiantl and concentrated wealth on the
1 other, always vanishing just before
[ the election but always visible after
the election is over, and it holds In Its
Reader, from careful inquiry you will rind that during th entire time that
ihe fair-minded people of Oklahoma Territory and the people 01 Indinri
j Territory, Democrats and Republicans alike, were contending before the Com-
mittees of Congress and in the making of public sentiment at home and
• broad you secured for these two Territories their just rights to home govern-
ment, Joe McNeal was engaged perr.iste; tlyin the most vicious, untruthful
Mid slanderous e'/.ort to make a state, not for the welfare of the whole people
but for the welfare of the old Guthrie Territorial gang of grafters of which
Joe McNeal for years hatT been the directing spirit and the chief beneficiary.
True Is his statement that he has grown to be an exceedingly rich man,
as he claims probably the richest man in the Territory, but what did he pro-
pose for the people of Indian Territory? Read his statements taken from the
official records at Washington as we have protographed them above and ask
yourself, whether you be. an Indian or a«white cltizan of Indian Territory, is
the man who vilified you and your country and fought persistently to deny
you your rights as citlzenn any reason to expect you lo trust him now to fill
I the principal office in your new state.
Remember again, this address to the people of Indian Territory is not
| to be taken as a reflection upon the people of Oklahoma Territory. In fact,
taking Joe W. McNeal, Frank Greer and three other inhabitants of Oklahoma
Territory out of the list and we speak from intimate acquaintance with the
balance of the citizenship or Oklahoma Territory in asserting that they have
always been friendly to Indian Territory people and In favor of equal treat-
ment to the people of both Territories.
STANDPATTERS.
Joe W. McNeal finds himseir shunned, deserted and despised by the pro-
gressive or so-called insurgent element of the Republican party.
VICE-PRESIDENT SHERMAN
'he stand] atter, came to Oklahoma, opened Joe McNeal's campaign lor <io
■ rnor, spoke at Guthrie, Enid, El Reno and Oklahoma City, and returned t>
I Nev York we assume to tell Aldrich aud Cannon what he had done for
'heir friend Joe.
EX-CONGRESSMAN WATSON
I f Indiana a Can non-Aldrich supporter, whom the Republicans of ills home di:
(Continued 011 Pay
1 golden meshes the great mass ot the
American people, and Republicanism,
like some malevolent spider, Is forever
feasting 011 their sweat and blood In
! the name of God and liberty. But the
great Republican west has grown
| weary of the spider and its alluring
web.
Open Rebellion
They are In open rebellion
against the party of Cannon and Aid-
rich and Hooper. They have repudi-
ated high protective tariff for which
they have voted through many gen-
erations. All the old line Rcpubli
< an representatives but two from
j Kansas, bit the dust in the primaries
1 his summer and they elected the In
1 surgent candidate for governor by
I :?0,000 majority.
j 'Nebraska is wabbling 011 the
1 rudgeon, and Iowa, led by Senators
' ( ummings and Dolllver, has rebelled
! against Republican legislation.
"Wisconsin, in her recent pri-
j marieB, Instructed for LaFollette, the
ureat insurgent leader, again for the
| senate by an overwhelming majority.
I "Minnesota has broken the spell
of standpat ism, and so have the Da
kotas and California and Oregon.
"Indiana is trembling in the scales
and will soon elect a Democratic gov
ernor and a Democratic senator.
"Maine has repudiated Mr. Hale,
great standpat leader in the senate,
and elected a Democratic governor
and a Democratic legislature and
we will soon have a Democratic sen-
ator from that state, which was once
the Gibraltar of Radicalism. There
are sweet prospects for a Democratic
governor in New Jersey, and if he is
elected, Woodrow Wilson may be the
standard-bearer of our party In 1912.
"The Democrats of Ohio arc
shouting for Harmon and harmony,
and all the old south is keeping time
to the music of Dixie, and the north
I is keeping step with the south for
Democratic government. Can It be
'that Tennessee, the land of Old Hlck-
| orv and James I\. Polk and Andrew
1 Jackson, the land of Forrest and
Cheatham and Harris and Bate, shall
in this glorious hour fall out of the
Democratic line and lock shields with
j the enemies of all that is most sacred
'«) southern hearts and southern
hopes? Can it be that Tennessee shall
be the first to turn her back upon all
I the memories and all the traditions
1 and all the ideas of our fathers?"
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