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PA(fE FOUR
SUNDAY MORNING—o—MUSKOGEE DAILY PHOENIX —o— DECEMBER THIRD
WILL JOHNSON RETURN TO RING IF RACE IS ENDANGERED?
Promoters Will Try to Inveigle Champion Jack Johnson Back to the Game to Defend His Titl
Johnson Will Defend TilU
If Race Ever Needs Ilia
Tigers Chcose Pendleton
To Lead Tesm Next Year
Harvard and Yale Have Not Yet Selected Cap'ains But
VVudell and Camp Se m to Be the
I r.bab e Candidates
Camp, Wendell and While Three Particularly
Bright Stars ol (he "Big Three" Elevens
lor
in
let,"
(Hy MONTY.)
NKW YOHK, Dee. 2.—One of the "big three"—Prlncctnn—ha* already
i-ted Hv captain for tho en.aiing season. The honored one is Talbot Tay-
Pendlcton, the dashing halfback, u'ho In 1912 will be playing his third
ir In the eleven. Harvard mid Yule have yet to choose tlielr leaders, but
each ease It Is • nmparatlvely easy to predict the man.
Harvard i . r< rtain to select Percy I angdon Wendell, the "human bul-
wlio was nine-tenths of the Crimson strength both In attack and de-
fense this < car. . id last year ;ih well, hike Pendlelon of Princeton, he will
lie a senior next fall, and will bo pluylnK his third season as a vanity
regular.
At Yale there will lie something more like a contest, but Walter Camp,
Jr., loom* above his rival teammates, Bomelster and KpatdlnK. The custom
at tho I.uno universities Is that only seulora are eligible for the captaincy,
Bomelster, Cump ana Spalding will be fourth year men next Benson, and
tho two unsui. essi'ul candidates will not have a chance to come back for
tho nomination again. Homelstcr did great work at end In the Prlnect in
game but .('amp'* work through the entire season places him above IJ.j-
niclHtcr. Spalding wan hardly an valuable to the teuin as either of tlvj
Other*. And, If popularity cuts any very big feature In the election, it .v'li
niit the miii oi the iTeitoHt iiv Ing grldlruu iiuthorliy. ,
Trio of stars.
Km h of the big trtt> of eastern
to uns had u man who stood head and
hhouldcru above tho rent in promi-
nence Ibis year, 1'ilnceton had Kan-
ford H. White, otherwise ••Sammy,"
Harvard had Wendell and Talc had
('amp. The lust named was the most
versatile of tho three. Ho was at) great
a defensive player us w
strong teams. Neither can we. It
appears ridiculous to ask a man to
make that guess under the prevailing
conditions of the ten-yard-three-down
sty le of game. The guesses probably
would range all the way from half a
yard up to four yardB.
Football, In the very nature of the
game, is a great pastime as It stands.
Hut that it could bo made Infinitely
better by the proper slight changes Is
conceded. The ijuistion then Is, what
uro the proper changes? The rules
committee hua tried for years to find
out. It has never changed tne num-
ber of downs. Wo would like to s< e
tbcm tako a fling at this last resort
that Is left, and our confident opin-
ion Is that the flfteen-yard-flve-dnvvn
regulation would prove the renu dy
for all football's ills.
American league
Meet December
pluyer as were tho others,
he was almost us good u ground-gnln-
< r ,is Wendell und he wan In addition
one of the star punters and drop-
kickers of the season. The others
were scarcely of college calibre whin
it came to kicking. Sam White Is al-
most assured of the captaincy of
Princeton's 1913 eleven because of
his wonderful work In winning the
Yale und Harvard games thin year,
whether he docs well next year or
not.
In event that Camp and Wendell
uro let ted for next year's Yale and
Harvard loaders, each "of tho teams
will have Its e.iptalns playing In a
different position than the man who
bore its standard this year. Kddle
1'art, of Princeton, wan a tackle, I
while his successor, Pendleton, is a —
halfb"! K Altbul Howe, of Y ilo wa, jndicati0ns poJ j g j
<luiirlcrU.it k. while Camp Is a hall uu
hack. Hob Fisher, of Harvard, was
n guard, while Wendell Is a halfback,
Tlior|s< May He hJiTti'd.
The complexion of the elections for
captains at the other big universities
seems as follows: Carlisle—Jim
Thorp, halfback, will succeed Samp-.
son Ili>i*d; Cornell Quarterback Hut-
ler will succeed Fullback Hilly Munk;
Dartmouth llalfbaek Hogsett will
succeed Kddle lialey; Army - Tackle
Dean will succeed Hob Hyatt; Penn-
sylvania- a close contest between
four men to succeed Fu'tbaoli More. r;
Navy -a close contest between .five
men to succeed Johnny Pulton.
Suggest Change In Utile-.
Many suggestions have been made
Tor changes in the rules for 1912, to
equalize the advantage that the of-
fense now possesses over the defense.
The problem several >curs ago w.i« to
lielp the ileiense. Now it Is reversed.
All manner of recommendations have
been made, some of them worthy of
consideration, others little short of
the groti mine. Hat the main one
Full of Harmony—Changes
in the National Agreement
to Take Most Time.
Tho American league's annual
meeting will convene In New York on
Monday. December 11, and try to
clear tho decks of all business l>v the
afternoon of the following day. That
as the plan outlined by President
Johnson on his return from Cntlian
u here he went to testify in
the Joseph Cordon suit.
of starting the
the week is to
-leavt
the
iltsla
lined
•ei
X ard
o to b
ve the ol
three, d>
ilb
Here
the
the att
It. llK
will Kb
mr downs bisti
the distance i
•<1h as several ]
three downs that have existed
iii> constantly ever since foot
W were codified.
I* our suggestion—lncr«avo
ance to l It teen yards and give
idling side five downs to make
■■easing tile number of downs
o the offensive team a etan e
Is plays in worsting order. Tbe
,'ould bo in a Way the same is
sign il practice. The assailing
loolil have an opportunity to
king together in hotter order:
• h.M bo better t! amvvork.
the
ho tn
illy
ourt in
The purpose
meeting so early in
et tho league's busl-j
ncss transacted In advance of I'mio'
Hen Shibe's banquet to the Itase Hall!
Writers' association, which bus been,
booked for the night of December 12
at tho Hotel Astor. Han naively ox-!
plained that it was difficult to centeri
one's mind on Important business!
matters on tho lay after u function of!
that sort.
There does not seem to l>e n large
mist of Important business to eome|
before the American league club own-1
ers this time, but you never can tell,
j I -as t winter the usual prediction . ; n I
■ I la. Id American league session nasi
I made only to have the tangle ove. !
the proposed sale of the St. l.ouis clul.j
I break loose with some Inside trim |
linings, the exact cut of which never|
I was exposed to the general public i
This year the club owners will hav -|
tbo transfer of a half-Interest In Hk
Illusion club to ratify, but us Jolln I
| Taylor continues to be heavily inter
' esteri ill tbe club It is not a comp'et
i bange of ownership and no hitch It
| tho ratllicatlon is looked for.
Kindly Disposed Toward Minor-.
The business which will occnuj
niovt ol the league's time will be
< niisidei .ition of the proposed change
i". i he National Agreement to suit t'.i
minor league, or rather the three ilia-
cord. This question will have to lit
threshed out separately by tho Alitor
ban and National leagues, the liU'ei
meeting being fixed for December 1-'
bv it- constitution. What the attit i l<
low Class AA cannot be fore ast,
hut there doe* not appear to he any
disposition to refuse the modifications.
Believed That Jack Johnson Has Retired From • m
With His Liak in Heavyweight
Chain Unbroken.
(By W. W. N.YCOHTON.)
SAN FRANCISCO, Cal., Dec. 2.—When Jack Johnson llrst t • iK« I ut i -
tiring many thought it was inertly one of the champion's whims, and ti, t
be would be back in the game with both feet the llrst time "proper in-
ducements" were made to him.
Now corroborative testimony is forthcoming that Jack is through with
the frivolities of the ring and that he is plagued with ennui to the extent
that he does not care a continental who succeeds to the title.
He waives all right to a voice in thi bestowal of the laurels a-,.! says
he has no suggestions to make as to the heavyweights best tltuii in m-.u-
them.
This is bad. It means there will be a cloud on the heavyweight chain- I
plonship for years—that the man who assumes the prerogative witlm I
licking Johnson will be regarded as a pretender, a Jackal masijin i.niiiit I
a lion's skin.
There must be a continuity In a thing of this kind. Kach sio
champion is merely a.link in the chain of destruction. The newest ni.n
or the latest model, one might say—licked a champion who licked ;
other champion and so, link by link, we trace our latest pri/a ring u
back to some dl tmand distant "champ," Just as a race horse tra< - to
Pyerley Turk, or the Darley Arabian.
When a broken link appears, thi re
is a blot on the escutcheon of the
man whose reputatlonal pedigree we
ar • Investigating and so it will be If
Johnson escapes from tho game un-
licked and some one grabs his title.
This line of argument Is easily
proved sound. John L. Sullivan de-
feated Paddy Ryan, who defeated
Joe Liewis, Jim Corbett defeated Sul-
livan; Bob Fitzsimmons defeated Jim
Corbett; Jim Jeff ies defeated Bob
Kitzsimmons and Jack Johnson didn't
do a thing to Jeffries.
Just think of the mental suffering
of the sporting editors of the future
A Baseball Pipe
Worth the Money
One Man Can Play a Whole
Game of Ball Alone On
Phoebus, Says Professor.
bright particular stars of the
"big three" of 1911. Above is Walter
Camp, Jr., Vale's dashing halfback.
I" low Is Percy Wendell, Harvard's
great ground-gainer. On the right is, captaincy of their t.ams for next sca-
im White, Princeton end, who won Iran, while White is a certainty for
both th« Harvard and Yale games by Princeton's leader In 1913, succeeding
his spectacular work. Camp und t "Tol" Pendleton, who has been elected
Wendell ,,re almost sure to receive the i as Eddie Hart's successor in 1912.
and
nates will prove short sighted
decline to adopt the limit.
A good many of them wlti argue
j.n:*t as Harry Kdwards did In his last
| wick's letter that tyn recruits are not
j enough, because not one In ten make:
nood on the average. Harry IV part!\
answers that argument himself latei
| on, bnt does not gasp the real pur-
■ pose iimi eventual results of the pro-
lpo-ed lintit on rocruits. That Is to
; remedy the very fact that not one
' in ton rocruits of tho present day
makes good In the niaji r leagues. At
.the rate tilings have I'een going it is
only ,t question of a lew years before
there will be one In 20 or :i0 recruits
from the minors who iviT make good.
[The system of wholesab crabbing Is
responsible for the small quantity ol
good material now developed each
vi ar anion,' the minor leagues.
Means I Uglier Per Cent Kit.
lly limiting each club owner to ten
i t emits a year, some Immediate hard-
ships may result, particularly to the
| maker dubs which no. d tile greatest
I number of recruits, but if will require
li a short while to remedy that ob-
i lion. It may be wiped out in the
i oinl year. It stands lo reason that
most young players are left In th>'
inor leagues long enough to de-
aml rise gradually th
Picked Up He e and. There
OeV the Sporty, Sporty World
Charlie Schmidt's success In his. Dixon and White have been inatch-
sparing exhibition with Jim Flynn ha> j e:!for the third light to be held at
tilled his head again that lighting Is! New Orleans December 11. Both boys
his forte rnnd not basehall. have spilt honors in the two previous
i-ii o. , —I—T. „ , . , lights and this one will surely bring
l.ddio .stack and Otto Knabe of the' j, k
imoi, , , . , , I about different rresults. The w nner
I billies will sign matrimonial eon-1
tract - before spring.
''P
Connie Mack Is authority for the
statement that Eddie Collins is- puld
tH.000 u vear, and Connie Is In a posi-
tion to know.
will prohahli
Abe Attell.
char
to meet
CHICAGO, Dec. 2.—According to
Prof. E. R. Moulton of the University
ol' Chicago one man is all that would
be required to play a baseball game
on Phobus—one of the two moons of
Mars—provided the man could live In
a place without atmosphere. Profes-
sor Moulton described the manner of
play in addressing a church society
last night on "The Earth-like
Planets."
"Our one-man team would ftrFt
take the position of pitcher," he sain,
"and throw the ball horizontally. The
| ball would go all the way around the
moon. He would then have time to
get a bat and strike at it. If he miss
eil It he could take his three strike-
then put on his mask, glove and chest
protector and catch himself out whei,
tho ball came around the fourth
time.
"In case he hit the ball and II
bounded he could play the part of ar
inllebler by picking the ball up uu I
came bound around the moon. H<
could then throw to first and catch
himself out on the base as the bill
came around again. It he hit a fly
in place of a grounder he might dra-.
mi his glove and playing the part ol
the cen.t«r fielder catch himself out.
"A strong batter might make i
home run. This would mean that h<
struck the ball so hard it went ! •
wind the attraction of this moon >in>
struck on the planet Mars. It would
be what wo call 'over thi' fence.'
"Kid" Kern.', the Oklahoma welter-j
weight, is now in Kansas City readj !
to begin tralmug for hi match with
j Harry Brewer at Nevada, Mo., this;
The Hot Springs ball park at which month. Kerns I.-. confident ho will w in1
the Phillies will train In the sprlnR from the Kansas City boy.
was formerly christened "Kogul Park"! 1 Second Race S Km'
during tho visit of the Philadelphia | Tom Kl,n„eJy (hp X( w ^ H-ed. Top N"t
heavy weight who has beaten all tb*L'
i .;tnv heavier up to C trl .Morris, looks' r "l* ■
WITH THE PONIES.
i lnrakfa Heanlls .Hn I m rilu >.
st Racc, 5 Furlongs, I'iiiiw -
I-, |,utky, Wish, Deduction.
resident there.
Josh Clarke,
while trying to explain to "< >)d s -I
scrlber" and "Constant Header" i ti
the old line of champion:. « nded v nl
Johnson and that the new breed ,s|
only a kind of a Manchn dynast >. I
Jack Must Como Hack.
Something must be done to stall 'fl
the confusion that threatens the nx-i
tic nlstorlans of the coming > e ars. W . 1
must drag Johnson back at any pre I
—and this "goes both wayas tli K
slangsterc say—und have hioiM
trounced to the queen's taste.
It should be done to keep the n i - I
ord straight, and come to think of i<. ■
'twill be merely that some oill "poe'i 1
retribution."
The Jeffries that Johii«xui Hcke.' ■
was merely the husk of the .teffri i |
that used to be, and Johnson h is g
much right to listen to tiw "conn I
back" cry as Jeffries naa, especially I
if the price is right.
There's another angle to the <t:i- I
tlon which is bound to engender bit- *
terness of spirit. I refer to the ra> i 1
angle. If Johnson is allowed to i. *
in peace there will come a time—am: '
then succeeding time—in which tbe 1
men with the dark pigment beneath |
the cuticle will say:
"The first negro that was ulven * 9
chance became the champion of the 1
world. They couldn't delV-it him and I
so as not to block the wheels of pro- *
gress, he stepped aside and allovvi >1 1
them to arrange a fresh deal. Th i
chain of destruction which bo* ,n I
with Klgg and Mendoza ended wit . I
Jack Johnson."
.teaiinette f.nys Claim.
Joe. Jeannette, through bi« m.ma- |
gor, Han McKettrlek, Is th i first '" f
lay claim to the crown left on the Im- I
;«au of Jack Johnson. McKettri- 1
►ays that his man has shown hinis> ir 1
superior to Sam Ijingford on various I
occasions and that It wasn't mueii |
Australian gold as a aeslrc to evade 1
leannette that sent Langford senji-\- |
big to the land of the Kungeroo.
This is the first shot in th.- new
campaign and Jeannette probably ha-
lts mil. h right to fire it as any other
man,
Hul how are things to be brought j
I" a f.i. us? With Johnson on th. re-
tiring list, astute Hugh Mcintosh is
to 'till the Impending Sam i,ang-
t'.i.l tu McVea fight as ti world's
■ /I . i championship sti ■; i.. and
who Is to gainsay him?
Ma, i.o the best thing for Jeannette
t« fto Is begin weeding out at tin's end.
Hot him hook up with Jim Flynn, i
who s. . ma to be regarded as the best !
of the white heavies, and let the win- I
'o r of that affair Journey to Auslra- !
Mi or i on x the winner of the McVea-
•*ioniord bout back to this city. Then I
h/i i ►"■gin to get a line on the sit-
Kovtrlb Bae.
tiif.1, Wl
t:« 2-5.
of the Kansas City ltl..es(0« lf he mlgl'.t really be considered as|^'M r•,• WllfrP<5
with! relleyo all doubt as to Just he
| there Is lo him.
Uiibe Msrqusrd. one Of the pitchers Now th„ „.jnters buRinf
who placed the OUnts in < hainplon- (o ,.haJ,go the fwtl.
ship class is one of the hold outs for.
will
e they I
both ti
■ I down
i dlsta
inakci
I to get i mote a-curuto estl
f the average amount ot
rv eiil.v-mati'hial teams shotild
to uuin on one another. Pr<ib-
i • ill tbe III -ttt 11. ' S of the
-o ild make M gmul
' tli Mci age di tan. e .
klic J by Cvculy-inntcbud
i \\ in tber the draft price will be io-
Icro iscd us much as tbe minors exp« . t
lis aliout the only point open to ai^a
I motif In thai arrangement
I 'if greater importance to both ma-
jor l. tgues is the ipiectlon of adopting
* limit of ten plan ts per club to be
taken from the minor leagues in one
• oh either In mirehtise or ilralt
That will «at up a lot of time ,n:il
pre * .i i gun .. ,
may b* that a iiiuj nt> of the ma*.-
vi •: I learn a lot more
coiisetiuentl.v more of them will muke
good in tbe big leagues.
Tbe trouble today Is not so much
o ■ i'i lb.- incihnno.il ability of the
routuits, as it Is with their brains.
l.ots of youngsters come up for (rial
and show good all round ability, but
tlnir n experience und lack of " base
lu.ll In ains" makes them unavailable.
Then they are turned back dlscour-
aue.l, or are kept on the bench until
they lose their ambition and so protin
abb -tat player* are lust for all Umc.(will
— Sculling i\i i.s, Nov. oV. ait r
who becomes the |
prui
throngli a transaction with St. Paul(a propsect. match between hlml Klftli llace 7 Kurl
has been In the majors six times In 111 ,Uho Oklabomnn would probubly |' Tlte^jat, Stick, i^ ^o,
eight years. His last visit was with' 0 a" doubt as to Just how much Kd.lo Ci&aey] Anlmun vv^. .
the Hustlers. j there Is to him. j Time l .li.
.Vuarra
Kir#I UhCf. ft Kuu« u/
Alomlight. T*h r hi.
ill rules. The game j Time l fi3.
ir than c*ei beforei ^r't""'d ' /,* '
Allufearn - Zulu, ito-
i. r o 2-r..
Third Titer, T Kurl'.. *•
I fitIHtlf ' 1< O, II*MM > '
I 2! .
Fourth ru**«* C *
. , , t i Key Hindu*, WUi.li.*
hool aquad says ho will start his; i no. i irt i-i.
I'll It. Hare, t, I' ■
Hons nlth the conference If he can [other week. He says al least four of j" mat'l/Rasa**" f
the old men who helped win last years.1''"■«. *i ne i< ■
i tilie \l,in (iuiniplon Si mo
VorK hs« espressi.!
' ■> Ahlte man wmib
tbe world Again hi
cf '"tsy to Soo how I
arrived st. If there
i«i- ;
tne opln-
br cham-
fore long,
le conclu-
Is a who
■ r ill
llsls ,i
f eating
ball j I9IS. Kobe lias a contract to
do
lulklng act at a two-bit theater,
in H road way.
not!
was better thi
hut It still ba
j Improvement.
plenty of room
prrst nl who i
Je innetle, Ijhil.
is ill-lug Uept un
Coach Sullhan. of tho Central High!
l*Tof. \ S. Whltnev, member of the
Mi. hlg ui athletic board says the
Wolvericucs will not renew th< ir r< la-j basket ball material to work In an !
prevent It.
Champion Ad WolCast will iriI be
iibla to box for at least six months, is
(he prediction given out hv rtttondtng
physicians. Within six months there
i a' doaen would u -v haniploi.s
his tilla> *
THK AlAMt* >>/*?*)■■
I
■ bampionship will again be in tie I
game.
- I have modrri, t
Harvard and Val hive not yet'^e-tth* Alaska bviisi.
lee ted captains lor the lull foottuiit niulges, «... «*«u>
elevens but Its a good befr that Wi i-m^) um*« i«^
dcH ami (.'anip • Hi I tke bcrrtf' with i*. M> i i
•r n* He pi let ices are
r Is Hide )io|ir in th.
"w And Ihc shadow
I'ible lo fall at who!
' time diirhtR the p. xt
e o 'uliill of his first
ho won bi hop hack
a foreigner ever won
lp from mi rlea and
III tin it, 11 ft Ilia mind
pulnl uta'.r. If the su«
i k I'll la Ihrsal-
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