The Peoples Voice. (Norman, Okla.), Vol. 4, No. 2, Ed. 1 Friday, August 9, 1895 Page: 1 of 8
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Rkfukk th« law wbi written down with
parchment or with pan;
Before the law made citiieua. the moral
law inude meu.
Law st a ltd« for human rights, hut when
it fuils t hnite right* to give.
Then let iuw die. my lirother. but let hu-
man beings live.
Cite ^peoples
oice.
'•Our Republic can only exist
*> Long as its citizens respect
anil obey their self imposed laws."
Labor T* The Parent Of Capital, Encourage Labor, and Yon Build Up Capital
VOL. 4.
NORMAN, CLEVELAND COUNTY OKLAHOMA, FRIDAY, AUGUST, 9. 1395.
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THE II IS ill.
Mr. Horr Is Lost in the Jungles
of Barbarism.
LET THE FIGHT GO ON.
A House Divided Against Itself
Cannot Stand.
Coin Money |t a Relic of Monarrhlal Syitems
th« Father of Usury, th« Great Curs*
of the World, But While Gold Is
Coined 8llver 8hould Be
Used on an Equality
With It.
Rev. D. Oglesby.
This Horr-Harvey debate is ex-
ceedingly interesting reading to us
• reformers. These old Bulls of Ba-
shane, gold and silver, the:e idols of
shylock, are goring each other to
death; and the amusing thing about
it is, they don't know it. When Mr.
Horr said, "to measure length you
must have length, to find weight you
must have weight, and to measure
value you must have value," why
didn't Mr. Harvey reply, that is bar-
ter, that is the money of barbarism.
Mr. Harvey could not make that re-
ply for the reason that silver is the
money of barbarism too.
The argument that it takes value
to measure value is very captivating
f to the ignorant, but it is pure sophis-
try. Money, the money of civiliza-
i tion is not designed to measure val-
ues, but to express price.
Values can't be measured by mon-
fy-
Values are always changing. A
loaf of bread is as valuable to a starv-
ing man as his life, but when a man
has plenty of bread, it is valued at
10 or 15 cents.
Values are generally fixed in the
mind.
An heir loom, or keep-sake de-
scends through generations from
father to son, and the present owner
values it a thousand times higher
than its cost, and would demand a
thousands times more for it if he
parted with it, than it is intrinsically
worth. 1 he first dollar coined by
the U. S. government would bring
thousands of dollars now, its value
or price depending on the whims of
curiosity seekers.
Commerce is exchanging the pro-
ducts of labor. Money is intended
to express the relative value in labor
of articles to be exchanged. Money
is the scales of Commerce. When
men weight anything they don't pre-
sume to have weights as heavy as the
article to be weighed. A pound
weight will weigh a ton of hay.
The merchant don't use yardsticks
as long as the bolts of cloth to be
measured. But the coin money ad-
■tycates contend that the money used
must be worth, in case, as much as
the property exchanged. This is
barter. Swopping one thing of in-
trinsic value for another thing of
equal intrinsic value.
Let the fight go on. The people
are learning slowly what money is.
The reformers contend that as
long as gold is used, silver should be
used, silver should be used on an
equality with it.
The only advantage that would
accrue to the world by free coinage
would be to enlarge the volume of
money a little.
But it is, or would be, no remedy
for the troubles which vex and agi-
tate society. It would only be pal-
iative. What the world needs is to
demonetize both gold and silver,and
substitute the money of civilization.
. The great mistake that the found
er4of the republic in 1776 made,
was to adopt the money of monarchy.
After throwing of the yoke of
Great Britian, they adopted hersys
tem of money, and it has enslaved
us.
Had they cut loose from monar-
chy entirely, and issued absolute
money similiar to the greenback
without the exceptions, and no pro-
mise to pay but to receive for all
dues, thij country would be today
richer by untold millions.
There would be no bonded debt,
no strikes, no tramps, no war be
tween capital and labor, and our
country would be the ruling country
on the earth. Coin money, the hot
bed of usury, is the curse of the
world. There can never beany set-
tled state of society anywhere until
it is wiped out.
Gold and silver are on'y commo-
dities. There is no sense at all in
allowing them such pre-eminence
over all other commodities, and la-
bor too. Down with them forever.
Let them be equal to other com-
modities.—Chicago Expregs.
!!
litixe Ball.
Last Saturday a very interesting
(fame of of ball was played in Norman
Base Ball park between the Norman
and Yukon nines. The Yukon boys
knew what they had to meet at Nor-
man and strengthened their team be-
fore comine by securing a splendid
battery from ft. Worth, Texas. The
Yukon boys have always played good
ball and when the Norman boyssaw the
imported battery they began to fear
that their first game in their new suits
would result disastrous to them. The
game was called and Yukon took the
bats and two men struck out and next
two went out on a double play. The
Yukon pitcher then went into the box
and the Norman boys took the bat to
see what they could do for him. The
two men struck safe and scored and
one other got to base before side went
out. The Norman boys scare was past;
they saw they could handle the Ft.
Worth battery and they never doubted
but that they would win the game. At
tho close of the game the score stood
(i to 14 in favor of the home team with
their part of the 9th inning to play.
In the second inning while the Yukon
men bad three men on bases the batter
struck a line fly over the second base-
man's head and the two fielders in their
attempt to catch it ran together and
tumbled over each other losing the
ball. This accident pave Yukon four
of the six tallies they made. Below
we give the score by innings:
M)KMAN.
INNINGS.
Friendly Criticism of the
Harvey-Horr Combat.
ALL UNITS ARE IDEAL.
Both Are Avoiding the Only Log-
ical Conclusion.
When the Fight It Over and Victory Gained,
Gold, 8Hver and Banks of Issue Will Fail
Before a Logical Money, "8afe
Sound and Flexible," Issued
by the General Govern-
ment Only.
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YUKON.
INNINGS.
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The Norman nine now say "bring
011 your players from Ft. Worth Kan-
sas City, or any where else. They have
the best nine in the Territory and it
will take a number of good imported
players to do them up.''
John Hefley came home from Purcell
last Saturday evening reporting him-
self sick. The boys report that his
malady is not dangerous—only love
sick. We think that the brick build-
ing he is working 011 is getting a little
biKh and the rustling of bricks up to
the hungry masons together with the
heat has rather fagged him and that a
week s rest will bring him around
alright.
Kev. H. J. Brown closed a success-
ful meeting at White Mound School
House on Tuesday night. He was as-
sisted by Rev's. Lane, Scott, ond Heu-
ry Methodist ministers. The results
were twenty-eight additions to the M.
E. church South, three candidates for
the Baptist, and one for the M. E.
church. There were nineteen adults
and six infant baptisms. About $14.00
J was payed for conference assessments.
The funny part of the Harvey-
Horr debate, aside from the general
flaying that Horr is getting, is their
quibbling about the unit.
The only benefit that can possibly
come from it will be a little educa-
tion on the question of money.
The whole trouble is that both dis-
putants are trying to avoid the log-
ical conclusion that all units are
ideal. The reason they do this, is
because if they did admit it, they
would both have to give way to the
absolute fiat money idea.
There is but one abstract unit,and
it is an invisible idea. When Coin
made hischalk mark 1, on the black-
board, he made a chalk representa-
tive of the one eternal unit.
Harvey is quibbling in favor of
silver, and Horr is quibbling in fav-
or of gold. That is all there is to it.
The Supreme court in 1S71 settled
that question. It said: "It is hard-
ly correct to speak of a standard of
value. The Constitution does not
speak of it. It contemplates a stand-
ard for gravity and extension, but
value is an ideal thing. The coin-
age acts fix its unit as a dollar; but
the gold or silver thing we call a
dollar is in r.o sense a standard; it
is only a representative of it."
Why in the name of reason cannot
people see that point ? Why cannot
they see that the name of a horse,
and the horse, are not the same ?
W hen old Count Schlick began to
make silver coin at his home in Sch-
lickten Thai or Schlick's Valley, he
called them Schlickten Thallers or
Schlick's Valleyers. They represent
ed his unit of value, and from them
came the silver dollar. If he had
made paper dollars they would still
have represented bis ideal unit of
value, but they would not have been
units or they never could have been
changed. A unit can never be more
nor less than one. Therefore, to
say that a gold or silver dollar is a
unit and then talk about changing it,
is to talk like a fool.
All under heaven that Congress
did was to say that the unit of value
should be called "dollar," If they
had said"peso"or"kopect"or"franc,"
it would have had the same force.
But they already had a coin in cir-
culation with 371^' grains of silver,
caHed the "spanish milled dollar,"
and they made the dollar of 1792 to
conform to that.
In this sense then,Harvey is right
The silver coin called a dollar was
made to represent the unit of value
which had been christened "dollar,"
and the gold coins were made to cor-
respond. Fawcett in bis "Hand-
book of Finance,
authorities, says:
" 1 he standard in all countries must
be the monetary unit established by
law, and as unit means one, there
cannot be "two units."
money muss. The people will be
brought to see that the legally estab-
lished unit can be stamped on any
substance that may be desired and
when so stamped it becomes money.
They will also learn from it the
necessity of discarding gold, silver
ar.d all other commodities which
have qualities that make them de-
sirable, and therefor valuable for
other purposes, and make money out
of the theapest material that will
serve the purpose. They will also
(perhaps), obtain sense enough to
retain theirstamp in their own hands
and not hand it over to great bank-
ing corporations to do their stamp-
ing for them, and charge them usury
for it.
When men become civilized suffi-
ciently to adopt co-operation instead
of competition, the money question
will settle itself. All money can then
assume the form of checks represent-
ing the products of labor and the
ratio of money to exchange be a
perfect natural one.
As long as we have the competitive
system, the principle industry will
continue to be the breeding of ras-
cals, the production of millionaires
and paupers, hence the necessity of
legal tender money. This will be
necessary, because rascals would re-
fuse twenty dollargold pieces in pay-
ment, if thereby they might gain an
advantage.
W. H. Harvey deserves encourage-
ment and support, not merely be-
cause he is fignting for the people as
against plutocracy. His face is set
in the right direction.
But when ihe fight is over and the
final victory gained, both gold and
silver together with all banks of is-
sue will lie prostrate in the dust, and
the people will have a currency, safe
seond and flexible, issued by the
general government only.'—Chicago
Express. C. W. Steward.
Littleton, Colo.
i un in
Of
Denver, Colorado,
raitrned.
Ar-
BV A METHODIST PREACHER
Rev
IM'assmore Astounds the
Public With Fearless
Expressions.
Knowing as we do that the free
coinage of silver will enter largely
into all the discusions of the people
on Ihe pending issues of the times
and that the Democratic party are
trying to steal the thunder of free
coinage that was placed in our nat-
ional platform at Omaha in 1892 it
seems to be necessary that the press
step forward and warn the people
against being led to believe that the
free coinage of silver will cure all the
ills of a debauched and corrupted
government.
Silver should be restored to its
place as a money metal without
changing the ratio, and the mints of
the United States should receive it
for coinage in exactly the same way
and on the same terms as they do
gold. Populist are all in favor of
this and their persistent agitation of
the question has brought a majority of
the people of the other parties to be-
ieveinand advocate the same doc-
trine. But no Populist believes that
the restoration of silver as a money
metal will settle the money question.
What the country needs more than
anything else is more money in cir-
culation among the people. Free
silver coinage will probably increase
the circulation to a certain extent
but its chief benefit would result from
placing it on an equal footing with
gold, thus making it more difficult for
the money gamblers to monopolize
and control.
O. H. NVE.
Rev. F. F. Passmore of the Method-
ist Episcopal church and member of
the Colorado conference, recently
preached a sermon which is attract-
ing a wide-spread attention, owing to
the pronounced views, fearlessly ex-
pressed, regarding evils of the pre-
sent time and the apathy of the
church in dealing with wrong. We
can only present a few quotations
from the sermon, which was preach-
ed from the text:
I have set thee a watchman unto
the house of Israel."--Ezekiel 33:7.
"Feed my sheep."—John 21:15-17.
Mr. Passmore said: "Watchmen
are men who are appointed to look
out for danger, and when they see
it to give the alarm and warn the
people.
"Shepherds are men who are to I
look after sheep—all the sheep and
all the interests of the sheep."
"Studying the ministry of our
church from the standpoint of the j
above scripture,
of the many; the brutality of crime;
| the desecration of the Sabbath; the
j increase of infidelity ; the rapid
J growth of immortality."
j "I am no longer surprised at the con-
dition of the church, the country and
the age, when I think that our bish-
ops and great preachers, with few
exceptions, have joined with corrupt
politician, gamblers, saloon men sab-
bath breakers, prostitutes, money
changers and the oppressors of the
poor and weak. Instead of driving
the money-changers from the temple
they are invited in and made wel-
come. Dare any one think for a
moment that snch preachers are
preaching Christ, living His spirit
and representing His doctrines to
the world ? Christ's doctrines,prin-
ciples and spirit would change all
these things and would bring about
an era of well being to mankind.
The trouble with our age is that
Christ is not being preached in our
great churches by our great preach-
er."
"Great churches in whose pulpits
stand men sending forth pearls of
impassioned oratory for the pleasure
of a few rich and favored, and never
a word for the thousands of poor,
hungry and cold of humanity, who
have been brought to this distress
by the very men who are sitting en-
raptured by such eloquence, i; ab ut
as far from being the true spirit of
Christ as heaven is from hell. Some
women and children picking up coal
in the great, rich city of Denver, to
keep from freezing, while other wo-
men and children in the same city
are worshipping (?) God in a two-
hundred-and-fifty-thousand-dollar
Methodist church, only a few blocks
am impressed with |
the tact that the greatest failure of aWay* Wl.th lhe added luxur>' of sou1'
hpnrauielii«iT /_ . ■ •
e age, is the ministry. I find the
ministry in ourchurch as a class the
most wordly, unfaithful and coward
ly that it has ever been. The church
is wordly, formal and unspiritual,and
has lost her power for good; yet the
enravisbing music from a thirty-
thousand-dollar organ. Does any
sane man, saint or sinner, believe
for a moment that either of these
pictures—the one on the river and
the other on the Capitol Hill—are
church is on as high a plane as hen the product' of Christianity ? If
j the people in the bottoms were not
oor, the people on the hill
would not be so rich. If the people
on the hill were not so rich, the
people on the bottoms would not be
so poor. Yet we have D. D's. and
schools of theology that are teach-
that both these conditions are
I the results of Christianity."
"A large portion of the men who
sit in the pews of our great churches
constrained to stop and ask what our I f ?<? 1,ang 0,1 ,lle words of our
- - bishops and popular preachers, are
the men who are corrupting our
leaders.
When I look over the age, I see j
crime of every discription and vio
lence on the increase, murder,lynch-1
ing, suicide, adultery, drunkenness, j
gambling, defalcation, the oppres-j
sion of the poor,political corruption, j
the outraging of womanhood and!
girlhood; in a word, the passions of
men—*he worst, the most infernal [
and devi ish—are running rot I am j
ministers, who are supposed to be
the opposers of all sin, are doing?
I am sorry to say that I find them,
even to our bishops, throwing their
influence in favor of all these sins
and crimes. It is a sad state for the
church and a gloomy condition for
the country, when the ministry and
the corrupt and vile classes are
working hand and hand, and walking
side by side, as the preachers, saloon
men and other corrupt and vile
classes are doing." "Ju>t as the
politics, oppressing the poor, de-
bauching womanhood—-are the men
who not only listen to great preach-
ers but pay them high salaries and
build the fine churches. Our bis-
hops and great preachers are living
in such style of opulence and
affluence, and moving in circles of
such magnificent splendor, that the
poor cannot pay the bills and can-
| not, therefore, hope for their sym-
I pathy. The ministry should live
It is reported that President Cleve
land is figuring around to capture
tne next Presidential nomination on
one of the best of some one 0f the tWQ oI() party tickets
l he Democrats will perhaps nomin-
ate him and the Republicans endorse
him. It begins to look very uncer-
tain for either of the old parties in
1896 and if the two old parties will
All this talk about a "double stand- join forces. Wall street will never
ard is bosh. But when giants (?) j consent to take the chances of the
like Horr, Cleveland, Carlisle and , people wresting the government out
their class are battling for
"great principle" they like to play
cuttlefish and darken the waters
about them so as not to get caught!
One thing will result from this
of their control.
♦
lhe Populist of Ohio have nomin-
ated J. S. Coxey as their candidate
for Governor.
preachers stood for the divine right 1 , , • ,
f 1 • • , such a plain, simple, lfe as to be
of kings in the days of Cromwell, ,, , , ' 1 ' /
1 c *i 1 . , . able to breathe the air of full
and for the king and the nobility in L , , ,
,r„ 1 i- 1 freedom and perfect independence,
the days preceding the French rev- 1 '
olution, and upheld the slave-holder
in the anti -slavery struggle, so our
bishop, elders, editors, college pro-
fessors and the pastors of our great
:hurches are standing by the rich
and supporting them in outraging the
poor."
"For men to pretend to preach
Christ and then go to the ballot box
and support the worst men and I , > ,
., . , ... , ... ceeded, and as
the most devilish and infernal sins L. , ,
I the'redeeming
which would enable them as embas-
sadors of God to be faithful and
true to all classes of men."
"Our great ministers in this state,
with Chancellor McDowell, last
fall and also last April, join-
ed hand with the corrupt politic-
ians, gamblers, saloon men and fal-
len women of Market street to 're-
ileem' the state and city. They suc-
one of the results of
Denver was never
and crimes of this age, is about tliel . . , , . . ,
. 11,. . so nearly turned over to the criminal
baldest and loudest hypocrisy that , , .
, , , elements, and gambling and nrosti-
has been made open to the world for , , 7, ...
, tution were never so flourishing as
ages. How much more staunch ___ <- , , , . ,,
« , , . ... , | now. A fine lot of 'redeemers!'
supporters of sin can our bishops be-i 1, . , ,.
. 1 I Preachers, chancellors, university
come than to favor licensing saloon; , 1 , . ,
, . , professors, saloon men and gamblers
and support a party that now favors , , , . , ,
,. . .. ' . . , j and scarlet women. A fine lot of
licensing the prostitution of woman-I, > , , ,
, . . . ! ledeemers—such a lot as redeemed
hood? 1 his is worshiping at the n , , n. ,,, , .
, . , , . , , . Babylon, lyre and Rome just before
shrine of the rich and the vile,with a 1,, . , „ . r
, '1 those great powers fell. A fine set
vengeance. I am no longer surprised * f 1 ,
, f pf reforming preachers, preaching a
at the inefficiency of the ministry; r,,i 1 . n\ ■ . .1 , ' ,
,, . ,. . ' ' little about Christ in the pulpit and
the corruption in pohtics; the dead- . -., ,, ,
... . , ' , 1 flirting with gamblers and scarlet
ness of thechurch; the development!,,, , ,, ,
, , ' women at the ballot box.
of trusts; the growth of monopolies;
the wealth of the few; the poverty
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